2008-07-28T00:07:49 *** Mrdini1 has joined #openinkpot 2008-07-28T00:13:53 *** Mrdini has quit IRC 2008-07-28T00:14:15 *** Mrdini1 is now known as Mrdini 2008-07-28T00:38:33 Looks as if no one is discussing any problems today... 2008-07-28T00:38:57 what problems? o.o 2008-07-28T00:41:47 No problem at my end, I'm just saying it's awful quiet in here. :) 2008-07-28T00:42:48 Hasn't been all that much activity on this channel the past day or so. 2008-07-28T00:43:17 *** xman has quit IRC 2008-07-28T00:43:29 And I've been busy upgrading my system to a full 4GB of memory and figuring out where to put the extra 250GB HD. 2008-07-28T00:43:56 All this whilst tick-tocking in anticipation of the V3 arriving. 2008-07-28T00:50:27 delphidb, V3 from...? 2008-07-28T00:51:24 Only know of *one* V3, and that'd be from Jinke. :) 2008-07-28T00:51:48 ah, ordering direct? 'k 2008-07-28T00:52:24 Yep. Haven't found a single US source for them. At least, they haven't told me of any. Guess that's why they're considering NAEB as agents. 2008-07-28T00:52:56 Well, not really NAEB, I think. 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Anyone else heard about this? 2008-07-28T19:57:51 Read about the Astak Mentor, which is supposed to have wifi, touchscreen and bluetooth 2008-07-28T19:58:03 but not heard anything about a jinki one 2008-07-28T20:01:06 lvd has been promising a lot of new stuff, but no concrete dates so far afaik 2008-07-28T20:08:24 Damn... Oh well, they've told me the V3 is on the way. :) 2008-07-28T20:51:01 and all the more complicated new devices seem to be running winCE, no? 2008-07-28T20:57:46 *** latchkeyed has quit IRC 2008-07-28T21:02:54 *** latchkeyed has joined #openinkpot 2008-07-28T21:02:59 dottedmag wiki * 15 /: ComponentsStatus has been changed (http://openinkpot.org/wiki/ComponentsStatus?action=diff&version=15) 2008-07-28T21:10:49 *** latchkeyed has quit IRC 2008-07-28T21:11:47 o.o http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?p=223450#post223450 2008-07-28T21:12:42 roxfan: ого. x-ray - это типа тех, что в аэропорту? 2008-07-28T21:12:45 oops :) 2008-07-28T21:13:40 OOOps! :) Now if only I spoke, Russian??? :) 2008-07-28T21:14:30 I was shoked that e-ink screen may be damaged by the x-ray machines 2008-07-28T21:14:39 xray=рентген 2008-07-28T21:14:51 Yeah... I saw that and wondered myself. Good thing I don't travel! :) :) :) 2008-07-28T21:15:26 doesn't seem to be an issue with the Reader 2008-07-28T21:15:36 maybe because it's got a metal case 2008-07-28T21:16:15 hmm... I did pass my V3 several times through xray in airport, with no apparent damage still. 2008-07-28T21:16:28 It might be with the Cybook, being all plastic. 2008-07-28T21:16:46 V3 is plastic too 2008-07-28T21:17:11 How heavy is the V3? My Cybook tips the scales at just over 6.13 ounces. 2008-07-28T21:17:54 some site says 290g 2008-07-28T21:18:05 another 240g 2008-07-28T21:18:33 or 200 2008-07-28T21:19:38 I don't have scales handy 2008-07-28T21:26:01 *** Hicks has quit IRC 2008-07-28T21:44:59 *** latchkeyed has joined #openinkpot 2008-07-28T21:59:10 three weeks ago i has two fly. and my lbook was checked in x-ray 2008-07-28T22:00:07 that's why v0.0 doesn't install on yours v3! 2008-07-28T22:00:08 ;) 2008-07-28T22:03:30 oh shit :) 2008-07-28T22:37:15 And has there been any progress on the userspace front for the Cybook port? Ondra? 2008-07-28T22:49:05 Bad weather, I'm overheating, my computer too;). 2008-07-28T22:49:12 Haven't done much, mostly thinking and playing with debian stuff. 2008-07-28T22:50:42 LunohoD, can FBreader cache the input? The storage needs few seconds to wake after suspend:(. 2008-07-28T22:51:09 ondra: IIRC FBReader keeps whole file in memory :) 2008-07-28T22:51:30 And this is big WTF, I know :) 2008-07-28T22:51:33 It won't even show anything until whole file is loaded 2008-07-28T22:51:52 uh, so that's ok I guess. 2008-07-28T22:53:53 well, that explains why it is so slow to open a file on my desktop 2008-07-28T22:54:41 I wonder what to do with the pdf reader quickhand wrote. 2008-07-28T22:55:39 what do you mean? 2008-07-28T22:59:10 Just how to keep the next page in memory or something. 2008-07-28T22:59:29 I think it will be easy enough 2008-07-28T22:59:42 It's not really practical to keep the whole pdf in memory. 2008-07-28T22:59:53 Anyway, we should shake out source code from quickhand first :) 2008-07-28T23:00:26 ;) 2008-07-28T23:00:43 And I should finally build libextractor. I hate this library! 2008-07-28T23:01:31 and I know why 2008-07-28T23:01:34 ;) 2008-07-28T23:01:49 I took just a quick look, I thought it is fairly nice? 2008-07-28T23:02:13 I'll probably have to keep / in initramfs and mount /usr from the card, for the 'live' version... 2008-07-28T23:02:15 It uses libltdl which is brain-damaged piece of crap invented by dark forces in GNU project. 2008-07-28T23:02:43 ondra: hmm.. why? pivot_root should work well. 2008-07-28T23:03:25 * ondra googles libltdl 2008-07-28T23:03:37 ondra: it's part of libtool 2008-07-28T23:04:37 dottedmag: that's not possible, because the usb device is completely lost once connected to pc 2008-07-28T23:05:58 I think it's not nice to have / unmounted from time to time. 2008-07-28T23:05:59 Ah, so everything should be in memory or in internal flash while device is connected to PC. That's pity. 2008-07-28T23:05:59 *** Mrdini has joined #openinkpot 2008-07-28T23:08:21 Is that hardwired so it loses itself while connected to the PC, or is it something that can be programmed out? 2008-07-28T23:09:44 It might be possible to use the usb gadget controller and keep the card reader connected at all times, but certainly not without the hardware documentation. 2008-07-28T23:10:40 Sigh. And, OF COURSE, neither Netronix nor Bookeen will release that info. Damn them anyway1 2008-07-28T23:10:44 anyway! 2008-07-28T23:12:40 Hey, roxfan found the Sony manual in the internet. 2008-07-28T23:13:07 Oh really!?! How nice! 2008-07-28T23:13:36 But that's Sony;). This is some strange chinese toy. 2008-07-28T23:13:46 http://www.the-ebook.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8679 this one? :) 2008-07-28T23:14:00 No, it's some *taiwanese* toy! :) :) 2008-07-28T23:14:09 roxfan: yes 2008-07-28T23:14:23 the 505 is labeled "made in china" 2008-07-28T23:14:46 Yep. But the Cybook is made by Netronix and that's in Taiwan. Never confuse the two in their presence. :) 2008-07-28T23:14:57 I just wanted to say I couldn't find anything;). 2008-07-28T23:15:29 what were you looking for? 2008-07-28T23:16:31 *** Hicks has joined #openinkpot 2008-07-28T23:16:45 the easiest way that would solve most of the issues might be to export the connection *before* loading the userspace and wait until the cable is disconnected. 2008-07-28T23:17:09 and to connect to PC, just kexec the same kernel. 2008-07-28T23:17:37 roxfan: some info about Cybook usb hardware stuff. 2008-07-28T23:17:48 ah 2008-07-28T23:18:28 delphidb: Taiwan = Republic of China 2008-07-28T23:18:33 ;) 2008-07-28T23:19:48 That still doesn't make it Great Yellow Brother. And they're never gonna forget they got chased out. :) 2008-07-28T23:20:19 I *loathe* packing peanuts! They always get all staticky and cling like glue when a box gets opened. :( 2008-07-28T23:20:44 (He posts whilst attempting, in vain, to corral the ones that got out of the box. :) ) 2008-07-28T23:21:10 No. It's not the V3. Just a spindle of blank DVD-Rs. 2008-07-28T23:22:02 your V3 comes with a DVD-R drive??? 2008-07-28T23:22:04 :) 2008-07-28T23:23:31 I *wish*! :) Nope, I need to take a bunch of files off one of my HDs in order to make room so I can install a bigger one. (80 -> 250GB) 2008-07-28T23:29:44 So, Ondra, assuming we ignore the whole 'can we run whilst connected to the PC' issue, how close to a basic reader app? 2008-07-28T23:30:24 Reason I'm asking is because Bookeen has trained us Cybook owners to not expect to be able to run the app whilst connected at this time. 2008-07-28T23:39:42 delphidb: short answer is no. 2008-07-28T23:40:16 Like them short answers. Yes I do. 2008-07-28T23:40:30 :) 2008-07-28T23:41:08 I don't like this one. 2008-07-28T23:41:47 ;) 2008-07-28T23:42:12 Why not? It's not like you've not accomplished a great deal, you know. I think you're doing marvelously well. 2008-07-28T23:43:06 (Says the guy who, if he had to do it all himself would still be stuck on "First install Linux on development PC". :) ) 2008-07-28T23:56:09 *** latchkeyed has quit IRC 2008-07-28T23:58:42 *** delphidb has quit IRC