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| shekhar | hello, i have a hanvon n516 which i want to flash with openinkpot but am stuck with the install... | 03:04 |
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| shekhar | can someone help? | 03:04 |
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| shekhar | usb_boot.exe does not recognize the device and holding down rotate while turning on (or pressing it before turning on) doesn't startup the device | 03:06 |
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| shekhar | ah okay usbboot seems to work in linux with this http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/xburst-tools/ | 03:43 |
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| shekhar | now... how do i flash with this? | 03:43 |
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| shekhar | anyone here used the xburst-tools usbboot in linux to flash the hanvon n516? | 04:55 |
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| shekhar | dottedmag: is there an updated usbboot.cfg file for the n516 which works with xburst-tools on linux? i seem to have bricked my n516 just now... | 06:23 |
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| dottedmag | shekhar: never used xburst-tools | 06:24 |
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| dottedmag | "If you break it, you have to keep both pieces" | 06:24 |
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| dottedmag | shekhar: maybe jekhor will help | 06:25 |
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| shekhar | :) | 06:25 |
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| shekhar | i bought it so i could install openinkpot, and i'm willing to struggle a bit | 06:25 |
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| shekhar | dottedmag: i tried using the windows usbboot.exe but couldn't get it to connect | 06:25 |
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| dottedmag | well, it worked for me. once, since then I use built-in reflasher. | 06:26 |
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| shekhar | yeah, i just need to do this first time... xburst-tools usbboot connects and talks to the n516 fine, it also accepts all the commands for flashing | 06:27 |
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| shekhar | just when it's done, nothing happens, i can't reset or power on | 06:27 |
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| dottedmag | something is wrong(tm) | 06:27 |
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| dottedmag | shekhar: did you use VM to run Windowoze? | 06:27 |
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| dottedmag | or was it installed on real hardware? | 06:27 |
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| shekhar | dottedmag: no i went to campus and used a windows machine there | 06:28 |
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| dottedmag | hmm... did you have Admin rights? | 06:28 |
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| shekhar | i also tried with a VM and wine | 06:28 |
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| dottedmag | LunohoD said he succeeded in flashing using VirtualBox (proprietary one) | 06:28 |
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| shekhar | dottedmag: yeah i had admin rights on that machine | 06:28 |
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| dottedmag | shekhar: pretty strange. usbboot.exe worked fine for anyone who tried before. | 06:29 |
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| shekhar | well like i said i managed okay with usbboot in xburst, i suspect what needs doing is some tweaking of the .cfg file here http://lists.openinkpot.org/pipermail/openinkpot-hackers/2009-November/000001.html | 06:29 |
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| shekhar | dottedmag: well i couldn't get usbboot.exe to connect to the device so i didn't get far | 06:29 |
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| dottedmag | lars: any ideas? | 06:29 |
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| shekhar | i.e. i couldn't execute the first command "boot 0" | 06:30 |
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| dottedmag | shekhar: jekhor and lars know much more about this stuff, let's wait until one of them wakes up. | 06:31 |
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| shekhar | dottedmag: sure, np, i need to get to bed myself, it's past midnight here in Cambridge Mass | 06:31 |
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| shekhar | will ping you guys in the morning | 06:31 |
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| shekhar | i want to do this in linux and document it, the tools all work, just some tweaking of the config i suspect is the issue | 06:32 |
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| dottedmag | shekhar: yep, that'd be great | 06:32 |
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| shekhar | anyway I don't have a real windows machine at home :) | 06:32 |
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| dottedmag | Since I dumped Windows from all machines I'm quite reluctant to experiment with e.g. bootloader. | 06:32 |
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| lars | shekhar: uhm. what exactly didn't work with linux usbtools? | 06:33 |
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| lars | usbboot | 06:33 |
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| shekhar | lars: i can't use the USBBoot.cfg file that comes with OI if i'm flasing for the first time using xburst-tools usbboot in Linux | 06:34 |
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| shekhar | flasing = flashing | 06:34 |
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| shekhar | lars: i tried using this file instead http://lists.openinkpot.org/pipermail/openinkpot-hackers/2009-November/000001.html | 06:34 |
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| shekhar | everything seemed to go fine but i can't reset or power on the device now | 06:35 |
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| lars | shekhar: it should be fine. i used it to flash a n526 which has the same nand | 06:35 |
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| lars | shekhar: did usbboot tell you something about skipping bad blocks? | 06:35 |
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| shekhar | yes | 06:36 |
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| lars | if it's right at the beginning that might be a problem since the sfl in uboot can't handle them properly | 06:37 |
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| shekhar | lars: i'm not sure what you mean, can i send you my output? | 06:38 |
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| lars | sure | 06:39 |
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| shekhar | lars: i just sent it | 06:39 |
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| lars | thats all you get? | 06:40 |
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| shekhar | http://pastebin.com/m14d72a64 | 06:40 |
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| shekhar | yes, i just ran the required commands to flash | 06:41 |
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| lars | thats not good | 06:41 |
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| shekhar | ? | 06:42 |
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| lars | for what ever reason it crashed before writing the image | 06:42 |
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| lars | could you try again | 06:42 |
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| shekhar | sure | 06:42 |
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| lars | this time only erase the first 1000 pages or so | 06:42 |
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| lars | instead of all 4096 | 06:42 |
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| shekhar | how should i do that? | 06:45 |
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| shekhar | change the 4096 in > nerase 0 4096 0 0 | 06:46 |
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| shekhar | ? | 06:46 |
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| lars | yes | 06:46 |
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| shekhar | okay, it still says skip an old bad block | 06:48 |
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| shekhar | should i try a new SD card? | 06:49 |
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| lars | shouldn't matter | 06:49 |
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| lars | it writes to nand | 06:49 |
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| lars | the real error is "Error - can't read bulk data from Ingenic device:8" | 06:49 |
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| shekhar | yeah | 06:49 |
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| shekhar | that keeps cropping up | 06:49 |
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| lars | which indicates that the part running on the device crashed | 06:50 |
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| shekhar | could it be that the usbboot.cfg needs tweaking? | 06:50 |
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| lars | well, as i said i'm using the same one for the n526 which should have the same nand and sdram configuration | 06:51 |
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| lars | but it's possible though that i got something wrong | 06:51 |
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| lars | hm NAND_BADBLOCKPAGE should be 63 | 06:52 |
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| shekhar | okay | 06:53 |
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| lars | but i doubt it will change anything. i rather suspect the sdram settings to be wrong | 06:55 |
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| shekhar | yeah it didn't work | 06:56 |
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| lars | you could try to set BUSWIDTH to 16 and/or BANKS to 1 | 06:58 |
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| shekhar | okay will try that | 06:58 |
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| LunohoD | shekhar: try also newer usbboot | 07:01 |
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| LunohoD | shekhar: http://openinkpot.org/pub/contrib/n516-usbboot/azbooka-usbboot-new.tar.gz | 07:02 |
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| shekhar | okay i think something worked | 07:26 |
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| shekhar | now the blue led is blinking, not sure if that means the flash worked | 07:26 |
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| lars | nope | 07:26 |
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| shekhar | heh | 07:27 |
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| lars | means the bootloader is corrupted | 07:27 |
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| shekhar | okay... | 07:27 |
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| shekhar | lars: so i basically have a brick now? anything else i can do? i tried tweaking the different options in .cfg but am stumped now | 07:28 |
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| LunohoD | shekhar: try azbooka-usbboot-new | 07:28 |
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| shekhar | i guess it's back to the windoze lab tomorrow to try and fix thi... | 07:28 |
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| shekhar | LunohoD: tried that, same problem | 07:28 |
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| LunohoD | could you post the usbboot log? | 07:29 |
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| lars | shekhar: please post the log of your last flash attempt | 07:30 |
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| shekhar | lars: here it is http://pastebin.com/m362da71e | 07:31 |
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| LunohoD | maybe there are too many bad blocks | 07:32 |
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| LunohoD | shekhar: could you post the log from azbooka-usbboot-new? | 07:33 |
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| shekhar | LunohoD: here's that one http://pastebin.com/m66b7c336 | 07:36 |
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| lars | shekhar: thats still wrong | 07:36 |
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| shekhar | ? | 07:37 |
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| lars | you should see many many "Writing to NAND page x" | 07:37 |
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| shekhar | okay | 07:38 |
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| shekhar | need to get some sleep now... will keep hacking on this with your kind help tomorrow :) | 07:38 |
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| lars | the azbooka-usbboot-new output looks ok | 07:39 |
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| shekhar | lars: yeah i know, but the device is still bricked | 07:39 |
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| shekhar | with the blinking blue led | 07:39 |
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| lars | ... except you didn't flash anything with it | 07:40 |
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| lars | a sorry | 07:40 |
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| lars | you did | 07:40 |
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| shekhar | ? | 07:40 |
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| lars | but only uboot | 07:40 |
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| shekhar | did i miss something? | 07:40 |
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| shekhar | the docs are incomplete, the README file | 07:41 |
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| shekhar | do i need to flash fw.bin also? | 07:41 |
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| lars | not sure. whats usb_boot.bin? | 07:41 |
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| shekhar | that's the file that comes in http://openinkpot.org/pub/contrib/n516-usbboot/azbooka-usbboot-new.tar.gz | 07:42 |
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| LunohoD | shekhar: you should run azbooka-usbboot-new in windows | 07:42 |
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| shekhar | LunohoD: i know :) right now i'm trying in linux | 07:42 |
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| LunohoD | shekhar: http://openinkpot.org/pub/releases/0.2/README.factory-flashing.n516.txt | 07:43 |
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| shekhar | yeah seen that | 07:43 |
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| LunohoD | you should use those instructions with azbooka-usbboot-new | 07:43 |
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| shekhar | LunohoD: i would except the files in the azbooka package are different | 07:44 |
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| lars | but as flashing usb_boot.bin succeeds and it is transfer size was smaller than that of the real image i still suspect this to be a sdram configuration problem | 07:44 |
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| shekhar | LunohoD: in fact that's what i did here http://pastebin.com/m66b7c336 | 07:44 |
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| shekhar | hmm | 07:45 |
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| shekhar | lars: any other suggestions? | 07:45 |
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| LunohoD | shekhar: just get azbooka-usbboot-new, extract it, put n516-image.bin inside and follow the README.factory-flashing.n516.txt | 07:45 |
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| LunohoD | that's all | 07:45 |
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| LunohoD | that should work. i did it a dozen times | 07:47 |
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| lars | shekhar: i'll check the sourcecode and see if I find something. Will probably take some time. | 07:51 |
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| lars | shekhar: are you sure that it is a n516? | 07:55 |
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| shekhar | yes | 07:56 |
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| lars | did you compile usbboot yourself? | 08:01 |
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| shekhar | lars: no | 08:02 |
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| shekhar | lars: downloaded from here http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/xburst-tools/ | 08:03 |
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| shekhar | i'll just try windows tomorrow | 08:03 |
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| shekhar | lars LunohoD thanks for your assistance | 08:03 |
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| lars | ah... great. just noticed that the recive buffer is to small and overflows | 08:20 |
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| Groover | morning all | 10:17 |
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| Groover | I have little problem, I need your help | 10:18 |
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| ruskie | you need to provide the problem else we can't help | 10:41 |
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| LunohoD | Groover: tell us about your problem ;) | 10:52 |
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| Groover | I reflash the n516 to the original sw, but after the reset the screen flash 3 times and thats all. The blue LED light only. | 10:53 |
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| Groover | when I send the nerase 0 4096 0 0 command I can see many bad blocks | 10:54 |
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| Groover | How can I fix these bad blocks? | 10:54 |
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| Groover | but when I reflash to openinkpot sw to the device, it is working normally | 10:57 |
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| Groover | unfortunatelly the customer want the original english SW | 10:58 |
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| LunohoD | Groover: how many bad blocks? | 11:18 |
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| LunohoD | Groover: i had the same problem when i flashed the original fw without runnning nerase before | 11:20 |
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| LunohoD | but I could only solve it with my debugboard connected to the device | 11:20 |
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| LunohoD | lars: do you know how to run nand scrub in uboot without serial console? | 11:21 |
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| Groover | LunohoD: 30, 40, 68 bad blacks found | 11:25 |
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| Groover | blocks | 11:26 |
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| Groover | it is hardware problem? | 11:26 |
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| LunohoD | dunno | 11:26 |
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| LunohoD | Groover: 30, 40, 68 - on one line? | 11:27 |
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| Groover | each device | 11:28 |
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| Groover | I have 3 totally dead n516 | 11:28 |
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| LunohoD | oh | 11:28 |
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| LunohoD | that sucks | 11:28 |
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| Groover | yes | 11:28 |
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| LunohoD | and there was no bad blocks before? | 11:29 |
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| Groover | no | 11:29 |
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| LunohoD | why have you flashed 3 devices with OI and then flashed original fw back? | 11:29 |
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| LunohoD | jekhor or lars might help you | 11:31 |
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| LunohoD | you probably need a uboot which will erase bad blocks automatically | 11:32 |
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| LunohoD | Groover: you said OI still can be flashed, right? | 11:33 |
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| LunohoD | Groover: which original fw have you installed? | 11:37 |
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| LunohoD | Groover: set FORCEERASE to 1 in USBBoot.cfg and uImage.cfg and try again | 12:10 |
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| LunohoD | btw, check that your uImage-upgrade is 6Mb and not 3Mb | 12:11 |
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| Groover | LunohoD: I will try | 12:12 |
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| LunohoD | Groover: where have you downloaded the original fw? | 12:12 |
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| Groover | hanvon sent directly | 12:12 |
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| Groover | uImage-upgrade is: 6,4MB | 12:13 |
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| LunohoD | are you the hanvon dealer? | 12:13 |
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| Groover | yes | 12:13 |
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| Groover | why? | 12:13 |
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| LunohoD | cool :) | 12:13 |
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| LunohoD | do you have a spare 5" eink display? | 12:13 |
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| Groover | i think no | 12:14 |
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| Groover | :) | 12:14 |
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| LunohoD | i need to replace my broken screen | 12:14 |
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| LunohoD | Groover: how much does the new n516 cost? | 12:15 |
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| LunohoD | how much is shipping to germany? | 12:16 |
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| LunohoD | i ask because the n516 is not available to buy in germany anymore. | 12:17 |
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| Groover | the new n516 approx: 160-170 USD | 12:18 |
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| Groover | but I not sales person | 12:18 |
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| Groover | :D | 12:18 |
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| Groover | you need n516? | 12:18 |
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| Groover | how many? | 12:18 |
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| LunohoD | well, right now I don't want to buy n516, but I might recommend n516 to someone | 12:20 |
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| * LunohoD afk | 12:21 |
| Groover | if you need, let me know | 12:21 |
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| Groover | so, how can I wake up the totally dead devices? :) | 12:22 |
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| jekhor | Groover, totally or seen via USBBoot? | 12:24 |
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| Groover | seen via UBboot | 12:24 |
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| Groover | I can send boot 0 | 12:25 |
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| Groover | it is answer all commands | 12:26 |
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| jekhor | you can flash firmware with it. What happens if you try to do this? | 12:27 |
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| Groover | How can I make log from the USBboot? | 12:28 |
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| Groover | www.wireless-market.hu/openingpot/Clipboard01.jpg | 12:33 |
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| Groover | sorry | 12:35 |
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| Groover | www.wireless-market.hu/openinkpot/Clipboard01.jpg | 12:36 |
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| jekhor | Groover, set forceerase to 1 in uImage.cfg | 12:37 |
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| Groover | oh | 12:37 |
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| Groover | great! | 12:39 |
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| Groover | no bad blocks | 12:39 |
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| Groover | but I can see: skip a old bad block, when I upload the rootfs-upgrade | 12:40 |
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| lars | LunohoD: usbboot knows foreced ereases which basically is a scrub | 12:42 |
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| jekhor | Groover, forceerase doesn't eliminate real badblocks marked on the fabric :) | 12:43 |
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| Groover | aham | 12:43 |
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| lars | ah... i'm was to late... | 12:46 |
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| Groover | I tried the reflash on the death device, but it is still dead | 12:50 |
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| lars | any suspicious messages from usbboot? | 13:05 |
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| lars | like "skipping bad block(s)" | 13:06 |
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| Groover | but I can see: skip a old bad block, when I upload the rootfs-upgrade | 13:13 |
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| lars | Groover: shouldn't affect u-boot, i guess. You probably have already written it, but are there any symptoms? or is the device just plain dead doing nothing? | 13:21 |
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| Groover | lars, I can see flashing the screen 3 times and thats all | 13:28 |
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| Groover | the LED light only | 13:28 |
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| LunohoD | post the log, please | 13:30 |
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| Groover | I think I will fix it with hammer :D | 13:31 |
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| lars | Groover: ok if the screen is flashing this means uboot should be working | 13:34 |
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| lars | Groover: before trying to fix it with a hammer send to me ;) | 13:35 |
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| Groover | ok | 13:35 |
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| Groover | :D | 13:35 |
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| lars | does the original firmware for n516 have a splashscreen? | 13:36 |
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| Groover | yes | 13:38 |
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| lars | hm | 13:39 |
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| lars | i guess you got some instructions how to reflash the orinal firmware and install the upgrades? | 13:42 |
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| Groover | yes | 13:42 |
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| Groover | I have 300pcs n516, but 3pcs dead only after the reflash | 13:43 |
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| Groover | I think it is hardware problem | 13:44 |
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| LunohoD | have you flashed all of them with OI? | 13:44 |
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| Groover | yes | 13:44 |
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| LunohoD | and then all of them (300pcs) back to the original fw? | 13:45 |
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| Groover | yes | 13:45 |
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| LunohoD | then it might be a hw problem | 13:45 |
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| lars | Groover: but they worked before? | 13:46 |
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| Groover | yes | 13:46 |
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| Groover | when I flash the openinkpot sw, its working | 13:46 |
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| Groover | but when I flash the original sw, is not | 13:47 |
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| LunohoD | try another original firmware | 13:47 |
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| lars | that does not sound like a hw problem then | 13:48 |
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| Groover | I tried, but the problem is same | 13:48 |
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| lars | you could try a hybrid solution ;) take uboot from oi rest from the original firmware | 13:50 |
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| jekhor | This is bad idea :) | 13:52 |
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| LunohoD | just sell those 3 devices with OI ;) | 13:53 |
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| Groover | :D | 13:53 |
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| Groover | and my boss cut my head | 13:53 |
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| Groover | when I use this: nprog 0 uImage-upgrade 0 0 -e, then I can see the 2nd line: No. 2 Programing --> Skip a old bad block | 13:57 |
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| Groover | when the bad block is not No.2 it is woking | 13:57 |
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| lars | ingenics uboot is known to have problems with bad blocks at the beginning | 13:59 |
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| LunohoD | Groover: you could tell your boss, that newer chinese sw bricked the devices | 14:00 |
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| Groover | yes | 14:07 |
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| Groover | If you make the final sw, and that is better the original, we will use your sw on all n516 | 14:09 |
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| LunohoD | are there any special features missing in OI in comparision to the original fw? | 14:10 |
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| Groover | your sw is contain some good features, but the original is not | 14:11 |
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| Groover | the graphical interface is better than original | 14:11 |
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| Groover | but I found some bugs | 14:11 |
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| Groover | :) | 14:11 |
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| LunohoD | you should open a ticket each time you find a bug ;) | 14:11 |
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| Groover | ex.: zoom button not working | 14:11 |
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| Groover | the user how upgrade the sw on the device? | 14:12 |
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| LunohoD | Groover: if there is OI on the device, you can download an update file and put it on your sd card | 14:13 |
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| Groover | you mean the uImage-upgrade and the rootfs-upgrade files? | 14:13 |
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| LunohoD | http://openinkpot.org/wiki/0.2/InstallationGuide#Update | 14:13 |
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| Groover | its clear | 14:15 |
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| LunohoD | Groover: switching between OI and original fw is little bit tricky as you've already discovered. but upgrading OI to a newer version is very easy. | 14:15 |
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| Groover | ok | 14:16 |
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| Groover | I will tell my boss | 14:16 |
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| Groover | can you make englis-hungarian sw only? | 14:17 |
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| LunohoD | yes | 14:17 |
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| Groover | when do you send the sample sw? | 14:18 |
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| LunohoD | when you will pay ;) | 14:18 |
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| Groover | hmm | 14:18 |
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| Groover | never? :D | 14:18 |
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| Groover | it is free or not? | 14:19 |
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| LunohoD | yes, it is completly free | 14:19 |
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| LunohoD | but our time is not free | 14:19 |
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| dottedmag | Groover: if you want it, you can make it yourself, software is free. | 14:22 |
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| Groover | :D | 14:22 |
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| dottedmag | Groover: if you want someone else to do something for you, pay him/her. | 14:22 |
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| Groover | ok | 14:23 |
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| Groover | what is the prize? | 14:23 |
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| dottedmag | prize? well, better discuss it in e-mail. send me and lunohod a mail with the things you want to fix / adjust in OI and proposed price. | 14:25 |
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| dottedmag | dottedmag@openinkpot.org, lunohod@openinkpot.org | 14:25 |
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| Groover | noted | 14:31 |
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| Groover | sent mail | 15:01 |
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| dottedmag | good | 15:01 |
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| Groover | bye all | 16:21 |
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